Need Help and Support- Trying to quit cigarettes

Sidd

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#41
Great ideas everyone... Thanks a lot for the support and making me keep the quitting decision alive. I am still at 10 a day ... trying to lower it down... I think I'm slow but I want to be steady ! lets see.. lots of love for all of you out there ! Plus I recently read an article that talked about differences in pipe and cig tobacco and it echoed what some have said above- cig tobacco contains some harmful chemicals and the addiction is to the chemicals and those are mostly dangerous too whereas pipe tobacco is mostly natural. Another thing for my motivation ! fingers crossed...
 

RedScot

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#42
I can't say much about the chemical additives cigarette manufacturers use without a deeper dive than I've given it already. I do know, though, that they are mighty keen on having a consistent flavor and will use any additives they can to achieve that. I don't know if they use gas chromatography or Russell the supertaster, but the taste is the key -
-even though I quit tasting my cigarettes way before I decided I didn't want to smoke 'em right now.
This thread did, however, reveal something to me: the smell of my wife's menthols (the sidestream, specifically) is like a sketchy virginia, but it's most likely because of artificially sweetened burley. And by artificially I don't mean saccharine, just added sucrose, molasses, or honey. Sugar that didn't come from the tobacco itself, that is.
 

Monkel

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#45
I smoked cigs for 14 yrs or so. I had great motivation though. My now fiance said she would never date a smoker so I quit cold turkey for her. I've now been cig free for over 1 yr and have no cravings. The first 6 months are the worst. It's more of a mental game then anything and you just gotta push through it. Find something you HATE doing but that will motivate you. Maybe everytime you have a cig dont smoke a pipe for 1 week. If you truly want to quit hold yourself accountable and dont cheat. Only person and thing that can make you quit at the end of the day is you. I wish you the best of luck and stay motivated my friend!
 

Hugo Drax

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#46
I can give you the foolproof plan. Spend a week near death in the hospital. You go through the withdrawals and never know you did it. Worked a treat.

I never had the stones to quit on my own. I have faith you're stronger than me, though. You can do it!
 

Sidd

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#47
UPDATE: 26th Aug

Mostly sticking to my 8-10 cigs a day so far. Smoked a bit more during the last couple of days before the weekend as I had to do a lot of technical writing for work :( just couldn't seem to fashion myself to do it without these stupid sticks.... back to 10 a day for the moment again. I am at least keeping a track of how much I smoke and having this in my mind that I am on the road to quitting.

I was thinking of trying this out: during my MBA years I had a professor who used to teach us management and organisational behaviour ... he said that if you want to quit non-figuratively anything in life- every night before sleeping make a command of it- something like- I command my sub-conscious to quit smoking and repeat that as many times as you like and try to fall asleep like that. According to him it would train my sub-conscious mind in despising cigs to a level that I would hate the taste of it .... I might start this from tonight so lets see... Thanks for the support and I will keep posting my updates.

Love you all for the kind support.
 

Sidd

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#48
I smoked cigs for 14 yrs or so. I had great motivation though. My now fiance said she would never date a smoker so I quit cold turkey for her. I've now been cig free for over 1 yr and have no cravings. The first 6 months are the worst. It's more of a mental game then anything and you just gotta push through it. Find something you HATE doing but that will motivate you. Maybe everytime you have a cig dont smoke a pipe for 1 week. If you truly want to quit hold yourself accountable and dont cheat. Only person and thing that can make you quit at the end of the day is you. I wish you the best of luck and stay motivated my friend!
This is a very good idea. Let us see if I can try it and keep at it.
 

SmokeRings

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#49
I know the way it worked when I kicked them was outright cold turkey, I just decided one day that that was it and I wasn't going to put up with anymore, yes it was awful, yes it was uncomfortable, yes it was hard, but come hell or high water I wasn't picking up another cigarette...it was definitely bad the first 3 days, definitely the worst part, after about 3 weeks it was no trouble anymore, I know you can do it, you just have to want it bad enough.
 

Sidd

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#50
I know the way it worked when I kicked them was outright cold turkey, I just decided one day that that was it and I wasn't going to put up with anymore, yes it was awful, yes it was uncomfortable, yes it was hard, but come hell or high water I wasn't picking up another cigarette...it was definitely bad the first 3 days, definitely the worst part, after about 3 weeks it was no trouble anymore, I know you can do it, you just have to want it bad enough.
I tried cold turkey for one full day about an year ago. Then stated the next day. Deep down I really know cold turkey is the way to go about it even knowing I have my pipe to rest to. But still, something keeps from it. You are right I need to hate it badly enough to be able to go though with it. I am not giving up I am constantly trying to quit. I even tried it in Ramadan as during that time you do not smoke since morning till its break-fast time and I normally survive the whole day yet I yearn for it as soon as I break-fast. I did not for an hour but there was this constant feeling of missing out on something and I kept thinking about the damn stick and ended up lighting one :(
 

SmokeRings

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#51
I tried cold turkey for one full day about an year ago. Then stated the next day. Deep down I really know cold turkey is the way to go about it even knowing I have my pipe to rest to. But still, something keeps from it. You are right I need to hate it badly enough to be able to go though with it. I am not giving up I am constantly trying to quit. I even tried it in Ramadan as during that time you do not smoke since morning till its break-fast time and I normally survive the whole day yet I yearn for it as soon as I break-fast. I did not for an hour but there was this constant feeling of missing out on something and I kept thinking about the damn stick and ended up lighting one :(
Yep, your going to have that feeling, but as my drill sergeant was fond of saying, no pain, no gain. I found setting a time goal to be important, 3 days was the first one for me, just do 3 days and see where I'm at...then it was 3 weeks, after that I didn't think about them anymore, you can do it, none of us are perfect, your going to stumble, make mistakes, but as long as you put honest effort into it you'll win out in the end.
 

MakDragon

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#52
Hello everyone,

I shall come straight to the point without beating the bush. I have been smoking cigs perhaps since 1995-96. Same old story, went to the college, everyone was doing it so I did it for the heck of it- felt like a man crap. Got hooked :( Picked up pipe smoking in 2004 and realised it was something I was after. I think a lot, read a lot and write a lot either professionally or as a hobbyist. I am a writer and I know it. Anyway, what I noticed was that cigs tired me during reading / writing and I start disliking that, however, pipe umm oh well I can go on and on but won't- a nice pipe smoke not only soothes me but helps in my thinking process during my reading / writing.

I thought that as I move along with my pipe I shall eventually quit cigs but I did not and have not yet. However, this feeling of quitting on the cigs is with me deep down for the past 5-6 years now and right now I am more than serious to do so. I read Alen Car's book which is amazing and quit for a day but then started again. I have tried to reduce from a pack a day to half a pack a day which works but then I come back to the full pack without noticing and the tis really bad.

Deep down I know I hate cigs and want ot quit but I just cannot find a possible way. How to do that. I have tried e-cigs and nicotine gums etc but nothing seems to work. I know as Car says in his EASYWAY to quit that you just need ot make a decision and stand by it. I am psychologically up for it but can't put it to practice. I have started disliking the taste of cigs (after enjoying the taste of a pipe tobacco you get to know how filthy a cig is) but I do not know why am I a slave to those little death sticks :( can't find a way out... I am contemplating going cold turkey one of these days again so lets see...

Looking forward to encouragement and support... I do hope I could quit cigs and keep to my 1-2 bowls a day pipe smoking routine. I just wish I could...

Just an idea- is it worth it? If I quit cigs and start inhaling my pipe now and then would that keep my nicotine intake settled and help me quit? Once done I could stop inhaling pipe gradually. Would that work???
Hey Sidd,

I never smoked cigs. The smell kills me. I am also NOT a doctor, but my dad was. He always believed that people who could not give up cigarettes were also very likely to be hypoglycemic or diabetic. The nicotine, like caffeine, raises blood sugar levels with out eating by breaking down glycogen in the muscles and liver into glucose, thereby raising blood glucose levels. These were also the people that had the refrain that they could not give up cigarettes because the would gain weight. See, if they stopped smoking, they had to get their sugar fix somewhere else and that usually was a pop tart, or donut or something. Since a hypoglycemic or diabetic cannot metabolize sugar, they gained weight. Then they went back to smoking. The stereotypical smoke and a Diet Coke break, filled the gap. Nicotine and caffeine.

Think about it. How many cigar and pipe smokers do you see outside in sub zero weather on their break?

Anyway, my dad used to run a five hour glucose tolerance test on his patients like this and almost always they came back as reactive hypoglycemic.
Once diagnosed, they would learn how to control their blood glucose levels with diet and snacking every two hours. The urge and need for the cig disappeared.

Just a thought sir.

Best of luck!
 

Merk3030

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#53
Hey Sidd,

I never smoked cigs. The smell kills me. I am also NOT a doctor, but my dad was. He always believed that people who could not give up cigarettes were also very likely to be hypoglycemic or diabetic. The nicotine, like caffeine, raises blood sugar levels with out eating by breaking down glycogen in the muscles and liver into glucose, thereby raising blood glucose levels. These were also the people that had the refrain that they could not give up cigarettes because the would gain weight. See, if they stopped smoking, they had to get their sugar fix somewhere else and that usually was a pop tart, or donut or something. Since a hypoglycemic or diabetic cannot metabolize sugar, they gained weight. Then they went back to smoking. The stereotypical smoke and a Diet Coke break, filled the gap. Nicotine and caffeine.

Think about it. How many cigar and pipe smokers do you see outside in sub zero weather on their break?

Anyway, my dad used to run a five hour glucose tolerance test on his patients like this and almost always they came back as reactive hypoglycemic.
Once diagnosed, they would learn how to control their blood glucose levels with diet and snacking every two hours. The urge and need for the cig disappeared.

Just a thought sir.

Best of luck!
Very interesting read, Mak.
 
#54
I am one of those who used vaping to quit cigarettes. Get a proper rig not one of those gas station e-cigs. It was tough at first not going to lie. Vaping lets you titer down your nicotine levels slowly. These days, I enjoy a pipe or two per day and am much happier. For emergencies/ travel snus was a godsend.
 

Maddis

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#55
If you have the resources it can be helpful to work with an addiction specialist. There are well-established and research-supported techniques for changing addictions/habits. They involve identifying your values and goals, becoming more aware of triggers, learning what works for managing cravings, etc. This book covers the basic approach in a down to earth way:

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Drugs-Ga...ing+chocolate&qid=1566941263&s=gateway&sr=8-1
 

SmokeRings

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#56
I am one of those who used vaping to quit cigarettes. Get a proper rig not one of those gas station e-cigs. It was tough at first not going to lie. Vaping lets you titer down your nicotine levels slowly. These days, I enjoy a pipe or two per day and am much happier. For emergencies/ travel snus was a godsend.
Given the recently released information by the CDC I strongly suggest looking at their warnings and information before grabbing a vape, not telling anyone what to do of course, but the CDC seems to be pretty serious about this one.
 
#57
Given the recently released information by the CDC I strongly suggest looking at their warnings and information before grabbing a vape, not telling anyone what to do of course, but the CDC seems to be pretty serious about this one.
Like most things government related there is more to the story coming out. Turns out many if not most of the current severe lung reactions reported were related to vaping THC. Makes sense as it was lipiod pneumonia being reported. Nicotine vaping liquids use an alcohol base, THC uses an oil base. Lipoid pneumonia is caused by inhaling oil. Nothing you inhale is 100% safe. Definitely make an informed choice. In my case, I went from years of pack a day smoking, to four months of vaping, to nothing. Now I can enjoy a pipe a day and not sweat it if I miss a few days.
 

SmokeRings

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#58
Like most things government related there is more to the story coming out. Turns out many if not most of the current severe lung reactions reported were related to vaping THC. Makes sense as it was lipiod pneumonia being reported. Nicotine vaping liquids use an alcohol base, THC uses an oil base. Lipoid pneumonia is caused by inhaling oil. Nothing you inhale is 100% safe. Definitely make an informed choice. In my case, I went from years of pack a day smoking, to four months of vaping, to nothing. Now I can enjoy a pipe a day and not sweat it if I miss a few days.
Agreed, I am no doctor, and no expert on these sorts of things, just know that the CDC had recently issued warnings about vaping and wanted anyone who may not have been aware to look into it so they could make a decision for themselves.
 

MakDragon

Former PSF Wizard
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#59
Like most things government related there is more to the story coming out. Turns out many if not most of the current severe lung reactions reported were related to vaping THC. Makes sense as it was lipiod pneumonia being reported. Nicotine vaping liquids use an alcohol base, THC uses an oil base. Lipoid pneumonia is caused by inhaling oil. Nothing you inhale is 100% safe. Definitely make an informed choice. In my case, I went from years of pack a day smoking, to four months of vaping, to nothing. Now I can enjoy a pipe a day and not sweat it if I miss a few days.
Excellent points!
 

Sidd

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#60
I am thinking of going the vaping route. I am sometimes sticking to 10 a day routine but on days I loose track and smoke more. This means that this approach is not working effectively. I am thinking that if I start vaping and stop cigs my nicotine intake will be there a bit plus the habit will be satisfied. Then I can slowly reduce vaping and altogether stop that. The cigs will be gone by that time anyways.

hat are your suggestions on this please?