What cellared tins do you look forward to opening?

coys

coys

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I have a sealed tin of Frog Morton Cellar that's about 8 years old. I was going to open it after my team won the Super Bowl but that happened again this past season and I forgot!

Otherwise, I have a lot of straight Virginia tins that are 2021/22/23. Numerous tins of Full Virginia Flake, Peterson Flake, Carolina Red Flake, and Union Square.

I also have a stack of Fillmore, Squadron Leader, Gaslight, and Quiet Nights too. I will be interested to see what they are like in a few years.

I am a one or two bowls a week guy, so within 2 years I calculate that I'll only be smoking tobacco that is 4-5 years old. At that point I can just buy to replace.
 
coys

coys

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ClinchKnot said:
Deeeeeeppp in my tobacco dungeon there is a Thorogood boot box which I mummified in packing tape, ~2011. The box is full of tobacco tins that I bought at a now defunct tobacco shop in DC. In marker on the outside of the box is written:

“Do Not Open Until Retirement”

I know there are a couple of whales in there, and some OGS and Dunhill, but I don’t remember exactly what it all is.
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That's a great idea. A time capsule :)

I should seal up a sampling of tins in a box, maybe with a new pipe. It'll be 20 years or more at this point!
 
coys

coys

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I have read about what sorts of tobacco age the best, but is there ever an age where it's too old? Does it just stop improving after a certain age, or does it ever become unsmokeable?

I worry about the Gawith tins I have drying out or not remaining sealed, as well as others in square tins. But I wonder if something is sealed up if it would ever go bad.
 
Chico

Chico

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coys said:
I have read about what sorts of tobacco age the best, but is there ever an age where it's too old? Does it just stop improving after a certain age, or does it ever become unsmokeable?
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Yes, but not for a long time. Check out this thread:

Cutter-Top Heaven Community Reviews: The Main Event

The time has come! To summarize: Resident vintage tobacco enthusiast and all-around good guy @MLC recently purchased a nice lot of vintage tobaccos off ebay https://pipesmokersden.com/threads/cutter-top-heaven.874/ He generously decided to share these tobaccos to create a Pipe Smokers Den...
pipesmokersdens.com pipesmokersdens.com
 
commonsenseman

commonsenseman

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coys said:
I have read about what sorts of tobacco age the best, but is there ever an age where it's too old? Does it just stop improving after a certain age, or does it ever become unsmokeable?

I worry about the Gawith tins I have drying out or not remaining sealed, as well as others in square tins. But I wonder if something is sealed up if it would ever go bad.
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I've heard that tobacco can start to decline a bit after say 20-30 years, depending on the blend. Some tobacco may be at its absolute best fresh too. Most of the aged stuff I've had hasn't lost any luster after 5-10-15 years. I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about aging something TOO long, as it's unlikely to become a problem.

If you have newer Gawith Tins, I'd personally get those jarred up ASAP to be safe.
 
commonsenseman

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Chico said:
Yes, but not for a long time. Check out this thread:

Cutter-Top Heaven Community Reviews: The Main Event

The time has come! To summarize: Resident vintage tobacco enthusiast and all-around good guy @MLC recently purchased a nice lot of vintage tobaccos off ebay https://pipesmokersden.com/threads/cutter-top-heaven.874/ He generously decided to share these tobaccos to create a Pipe Smokers Den...
pipesmokersdens.com pipesmokersdens.com
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Scanned that thread, super cool. I look forward to reading it in detail.
 
davidy97

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Drew estate gatsby flake. I put away a couple dozen tins back in 16 when p&c had them on sale along w top of stacking codes. I had a feeling some age would make it sing. Looking forward to cracking a tin. Might pull one out this weekend...
 
pipedreams86

pipedreams86

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coys said:
I have read about what sorts of tobacco age the best, but is there ever an age where it's too old? Does it just stop improving after a certain age, or does it ever become unsmokeable?

I worry about the Gawith tins I have drying out or not remaining sealed, as well as others in square tins. But I wonder if something is sealed up if it would ever go bad.
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I had that same worry so I now seal any SG/rectangular tins I get that I want to cellar, in vacuum seal bags (I do the same with any bags like Unicorn Turds etc). I’ll have to find a link for the bags I got based on a recommendation here, but they are the perfect fit for one tin, I seal them with a hair straightener
 
pipedreams86

pipedreams86

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I have a couple of totes with tins cellared, got a lot of mcclelland and Dunhill tins I have saved by and looking forward to opening.

About 2 years ago I made a decision and started popping open a whole bunch of the ‘special’ tins I had been saving, and jarred them up to smoke, it has been awesome to slowly smoke a few bowls on rotation of all the tins I had been saving. I have about 100 jars of various blends I’m now working through…The next tin I plan to open is Mcranies Red ribbon this weekend
 
coys

coys

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pipedreams86 said:
I had that same worry so I now seal any SG/rectangular tins I get that I want to cellar, in vacuum seal bags (I do the same with any bags like Unicorn Turds etc). I’ll have to find a link for the bags I got based on a recommendation here, but they are the perfect fit for one tin, I seal them with a hair straightener
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Thanks! Would like to see that link!
 
pipedreams86

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coys said:
Thanks! Would like to see that link!
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Sure thing! So I use the Pleasant Grove gusseted mylar bags based on recommendations from here.

I use the 1 pint gusseted bags for rectangular tins from Samuel Gawith and similar. 1 tin fits in this bag perfectly, although you do have to push and pull a little bit to make it fit. I also use the 1 gallon bags which fit 4 tins for when I want to cellar a few tins of the same blend. The 1 quart bags are good for Unicorn Turds 8oz bags and similar types of bags.

These mylar bags are very strong, and I have opened tins that I cellared in 2020 with this method, and so far they were fresh and well sealed. I also use these bags for cellaring samples and bulks and they work great for that. For bulks I tend to fill a mason jar with the blend, for putting in my smoking cupboard to smoke soon. The rest of the bulk that is left, I put in these mylar bags and they are always fresh when I open them up later on.

I close the zip lock seal 3/4 of the way first, to squeeze any air out of the bag and then fully close the zip lock. I then use a hair straightener to heat seal the end of the bag. For this I bought a cheap straightener from amazon…I let it heat up and then close the straightener over the end of the bag horizontally for about 5-10 seconds (it doesn’t need long at all), and then I run the straightener over the end very quickly to ensure it sealed.

Hope that helps!

1 Pint bags: https://www.topmylar.com/15-pint-7-mil-gusseted-zip-seal-mylar-bag

1 Gallon bags: https://www.topmylar.com/1-gallon-7-mil-gusseted-zip-seal-mylar-bag

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Lvaldezr

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pipedreams86 said:
Sure thing! So I use the Pleasant Grove gusseted mylar bags based on recommendations from here.

I use the 1 pint gusseted bags for rectangular tins from Samuel Gawith and similar. 1 tin fits in this bag perfectly, although you do have to push and pull a little bit to make it fit. I also use the 1 gallon bags which fit 4 tins for when I want to cellar a few tins of the same blend. The 1 quart bags are good for Unicorn Turds 8oz bags and similar types of bags.

These mylar bags are very strong, and I have opened tins that I cellared in 2020 with this method, and so far they were fresh and well sealed. I also use these bags for cellaring samples and bulks and they work great for that. For bulks I tend to fill a mason jar with the blend, for putting in my smoking cupboard to smoke soon. The rest of the bulk that is left, I put in these mylar bags and they are always fresh when I open them up later on.

I close the zip lock seal 3/4 of the way first, to squeeze any air out of the bag and then fully close the zip lock. I then use a hair straightener to heat seal the end of the bag. For this I bought a cheap straightener from amazon…I let it heat up and then close the straightener over the end of the bag horizontally for about 5-10 seconds (it doesn’t need long at all), and then I run the straightener over the end very quickly to ensure it sealed.

Hope that helps!

1 Pint bags: https://www.topmylar.com/15-pint-7-mil-gusseted-zip-seal-mylar-bag

1 Gallon bags: https://www.topmylar.com/1-gallon-7-mil-gusseted-zip-seal-mylar-bag

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I’ve been able to get the Samuel Gawith tins in the cup size Mylar bags 😂IMG_1857.jpegIMG_1858.jpeg
 
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